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Old 05-08-2008, 11:56 PM
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Default Sierra Club: Children Shouldn't be Told of Debate

Children should know there is a climate-change debate

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Re: Canadian schools sent brochures, DVDs from climate change skeptics, May 4.

Sierra Club spokeswoman Emilie Moorhouse maintains that the scientific debate about the causes of climate change is merely "an illusion" and so implies that school children should not be told about it. She is wrong on both counts. (continue reading)
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I've heard that organization name bantered about on the news all the time, the Sierra club. Everytime I hear a spokesperson from that organization I feel like throttling them, because anything that they say are outright lies regarding global climate change and how man is affecting the environment.

I am glad to hear that facts from both sides of this issue are now filtering down to kids. People have to know both sides of the argument before they can make an educated decision as to whether or not this global climate change 'fad' is believable or not. I've taken a look at both sides of the argument, and I've come to the conclusion that the environmentalists are wrong on all accounts.

It wasn't easy either, as facts from the nay sayers are hard to come by.

Again, I don't consider us 'skeptics', I still refer to people like you and I as well informed people who do not follow or listen to one sided biased information (I avoid using the term 'facts' when it comes to environmentalists, as I firmly believe the information the say are not facts but exaggerated information made to deceive the public).
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CFP: Let everyone, especially students, hear the whole story about climate science

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Let everyone, especially students, hear the whole story about climate science

Shooting the messenger of alternative climate science views not constructive – students can only decide who to believe if they are permitted to hear all rational arguments.

Mike De Souza’s piece, “Climate-change skeptics target kids”, published in various versions in mainstream newspapers across Canada, is a classic example of how the climate debate has mostly been reduced to a war of emotive, and politically loaded, words.
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my theory as to why environmentalists don't want the real facts of global climate change reaching the kids is that the environmentalists know the facts they spew are nothing but lies, and anyone can drive a Mack truck thru the loopholes in the environmentalists arguments.

I firmly believe that both sides of the argument should reach the public, so people can make an informed decision regarding this fad.
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environmentalists know the facts they spew are nothing but lies, and anyone can drive a Mack truck thru the loopholes in the environmentalists arguments.
I unfortunately feel different here, doing a Uni course with hardcore Environmentalists as both peers and teachers I feel that they honestly don't know the error, they honestly believe it to be infallible - it depresses me to say it too
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I unfortunately feel different here, doing a Uni course with hardcore Environmentalists as both peers and teachers I feel that they honestly don't know the error, they honestly believe it to be infallible - it depresses me to say it too
I don't doubt that a lot of the greenie-weenies are just sadly misinformed or have just never thought to question the rationality, but I've always questioned the motives of organizations like the Sierra Club. I've often argued that they could care less about anthropogenic global warming, and it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't even believe it themselves. That's just speculation on my part based their actions.

But does Al Gore really believe this stuff? I'd say absolutely not, and it's not going out on a limb. Follow the money.

What he's doing is the equivalent of insider trading. He's making movies, touring the country (spewing out co2 all the while, by the way), speaking in front of Congress, scaring the hell out of people & trying to make them feel guilty for merely living their daily lives. He continues to push for a carbon trading market.

And for all his humanitarian efforts, the guy is living in a mansion, lining his pockets with millions that he's charged for public appearances -- all the while dodging Lord Monckton's challenge for a scientific debate.

Where are those millions now?

The Media Ignore Al Gore's Planned Global Warming Profiteering | NewsBusters.org

He could care less about the environment. He knows exactly what he's doing.
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I don't doubt that a lot of the greenie-weenies are just sadly misinformed or have just never thought to question the rationality, but I've always questioned the motives of organizations like the Sierra Club. I've often argued that they could care less about anthropogenic global warming, and it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't even believe it themselves. That's just speculation on my part based their actions.

But does Al Gore really believe this stuff? I'd say absolutely not, and it's not going out on a limb. Follow the money.

What he's doing is the equivalent of insider trading. He's making movies, touring the country (spewing out co2 all the while, by the way), speaking in front of Congress, scaring the hell out of people & trying to make them feel guilty for merely living their daily lives. He continues to push for a carbon trading market.

And for all his humanitarian efforts, the guy is living in a mansion, lining his pockets with millions that he's charged for public appearances -- all the while dodging Lord Monckton's challenge for a scientific debate.

Where are those millions now?

The Media Ignore Al Gore's Planned Global Warming Profiteering | NewsBusters.org

He could care less about the environment. He knows exactly what he's doing.
I've mentioned this before, if I could overcome my strong beliefs against the envrio-whackos, I'd do the same thing as gore. Let's face it, he's rich because he's feeding off the fear of people, by saying "the sky is falling". I couldn't do that, I would prefer people get the facts about this fad rather than just donate money to a worthless cause.

But you have to admit, it is a good way to get rich, to make up some crap and attach the green label to it, people will buy it, and that is exactly what gore is doing.
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